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Author Topic: Xbox One/PS4 discussion  (Read 7185 times)

Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« on: June 11, 2013, 12:25:17 PM »

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lets take it here and get it out of the shout box.

I am copying and pasting our last shouts Mike:



Agent Michael Scarn: apparently killer instinct offers only one free fighter at launch. you have to pay for the other characters (on top of paying for the game...)
Today at 11:41:31 AM

Agent Michael Scarn: excuse me, the game is "F2P" although I put that extremely lightly
Today at 11:41:55 AM

Darth Shitty: Also don't think for one sec that game developers for the PS4 will not require some kind of fee to play a second hand game online or some form of DRM.....Sony was very wise in choosing their words, like he quickly showed that fugly console then whisked it away and also he wuickly mentioned having to pay to play online now.  People seem to already have forgotten MS is working on you trading and selling your games online.
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Darth Shitty: the physical disc is going the way of the PC and MS is following Steam's wonderful model for games distribution.  XB1 is pretty much a Digital DOwnload machine, you can buy the physical discs for quicker installs, that is all they are for.
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Darth Shitty: Sony won the battle but in the end they will lose the war if they do not follow some sort of similar suit.  MS is all about anti piracy, hence the 24hr checks, tell me which console do you think publishers rather make games for?  one that is nigh near unhackable or one that is easily pirated...less money in their pockets.....  common sense
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Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 12:43:42 PM »

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I don't know if anybody mentioned this but as for online subscription fees:
PS4: Required for online play, get free games as long as your subscribed
XB1: Required for online play, no longer needed to use online apps such as netflix or internet browser. Also get two free games to keep, even if your not subbed, you get to keep them.


Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2013, 12:48:46 PM »

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I don't like Consoles very much, but it seems Sony at E3 at least told people wanted they wanted to hear, and pretty much ran over Microsoft, at least in promotions and pretty much most people will go to PS4 at this point.


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Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2013, 12:58:41 PM »

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Yes they did Knives, and no Sushi I did not read that bit about being able to use XBL silver like PSN (the free versions) with Netflix and shit.  That is good news for the people on a tight budget ($60 a year is not bad at all for Gold so I don't see why people bitch about it).  But if you are on a tight budget you most likely have no business buying a PS4 or XB1 in the first place.

Knives, like I said earlier, Sony is focusing on the battle, Microsoft is focusing solely on the War.
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« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2013, 01:02:52 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2013, 01:11:49 PM »

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Square released this info today:

Kingdom Hearts 3 and FFXV (formerly known as FFXIII versus) will now be released on both PS4 and XB1.
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Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2013, 01:31:29 PM »

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Darth Shitty: Sony won the battle but in the end they will lose the war if they do not follow some sort of similar suit.  MS is all about anti piracy, hence the 24hr checks, tell me which console do you think publishers rather make games for?  one that is nigh near unhackable or one that is easily pirated...less money in their pockets.....  common sense
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Piracy for consoles isn't the issue. Considering you'd need a modded console to run the pirated games, I certainly hope both Sony and MS implement a better mod detection that bans the consoles. I haven't heard a lot recently on developers crying foul over PC pirating. In fact, PC gaming is continuing to gain ground and it is because publishers are becoming more lax on the stringent DRM implementation. DRM doesn't work.

The used games market is not a "piracy" market. Once a person buys a game, complete ownership over that physical product should be in the sole possessor of the buyer. That is why people are up in arms with the XB1; it takes a way that feeling of ownership by limiting what you can do with it. During middle school and high school, myself and my friends were constantly exchanging games back and forth. Can I do this with the XB1? Not really. I can lend it to a friend...one time. For Sony, I highly doubt that they will introduce a model similar to MS after the feedback they received at E3. If they switched it up, it would be complete and utter suicide for their console. Maybe I'm too optimistic--I'm not sure. What I do know is that Sony won this E3 by a landslide because I don't care about "exclusives". I care about the machine that plays the games. Does it limit my freedom over what I want to do with my game? If yes, then I'll stick with what I know best.

Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 01:46:41 PM »

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MS isn't limiting nor profiting on the used game markets at all, they are leaving it up to the developers/publishers of the games to say if you can trade in/resell your used game or not.  My piracy remark was in reference to the 24hr online check up.  I still can't believe the 400 price point for Sony, even though on both consoles foreigners are getting screwed big time on the prices.  But considering the 360 debuted at 400 with 20gb hdd, 500, what 8 years later with 500gb hdd and kinect, not bad at all for inflation. 

One can only assume Sony is taking one hell of a loss on each console, something just does not add up there (more expensive GPU and RAM). 
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 01:53:55 PM »

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I don't know if anybody mentioned this but as for online subscription fees:
PS4: Required for online play, get free games as long as your subscribed
XB1: Required for online play, no longer needed to use online apps such as netflix or internet browser. Also get two free games to keep, even if your not subbed, you get to keep them.



Yes.  I think that ps+ is also $10 cheaper, and you get one free game to keep but I cannot find where I read that so it might be bs.

Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 02:25:50 PM »

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ps+ you get free games often as long as you keep the sub up, once you let your sub expire you lose them.  I just got Deus Ex Human Revolution, LBP2 and iNfamous 2.  I think they are releasing Uncharted 3 today on PS+. 

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I am downloading Uncharted 3 and Xcom Enemy Unknown right now, but fuck Uncharted is 40 damn GBs.........
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 03:04:21 PM »

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Sony has confirmed that the digital rights management of PlayStation 4 software will be up to third-party publishers. Speaking on GTTV, Sony's Jack Tretton stated, "The DRM decision for third-party games will be up to publishers."
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Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 03:32:03 PM »

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Used Games:
You have to buy an online pass for the MLB THE SHOW games if you want to access ANY online feature, including custom roster downloads, and that gets tied to your PSN account. So when I moved and tried playing the game on my roommate's PS3 I couldn't access the rosters because it wanted me to buy an online pass.

I think Ubisoft also does some stuff with like uPlay or whatever their thing is called that can be a headache with sharing/used games.

It's more complicated than "xbox supports one re-sale/sony supports unlimited re-sale" and it'll probably be a unique situation for each publisher.

Miscellaneous:
The problem with a Steam-like game sale system on XBL or PSN is a) they have not yet shown the same kinds of price slashing that Steam has, and b) file size. A lot of people have limited bandwidth and/or download speed so it can be a serious hassle to download a 20+ GB games on a regular basis. I don't keep up with new games on the PC but even something like Skyrim is only around 6 or 7 GB.

I really like the PS4 price-point at $400 and I'll be curious to see the timing for price-cuts from Microsoft and Sony. MS will probably be in a position to drop the price or do a bundle earlier since they're starting at $500.

Microsoft has said stuff about the XB1 using cloud computing to augment the on-board processing power which sounds good in theory but I have no idea how well that will work.

Sony has said they will be able to run PS3 games on the cloud and let you play it on your console which also sounds good in theory (effectively backwards compatibility) but I really doubt that going smooth unless you have top of the line internet.

It's entirely possible the XB1 is in a better position in 5-7 years if internet really takes a step up in North America but there's a lot standing in the way of that.

I like that XBL removed Netflix and similar services from behind the paywall so Silver subscribers can access it, and I don't like that Sony went the way of MS and will make PS+ mandatory. As a casual console gamer I rarely play/want to play online games and I hate having to pay for that, on top of paying for my internet. At least PS+ gives you free games and XBL might be going in that direction as well.

Games:
I didn't really see anything that really WOW'd me (but I haven't spent a ton of time looking as I'm still on the road) but Division looks like it could be interesting and I'm really hoping Destiny gets its hooks into me. I can't really compare XB1 against PS4 in terms of exclusives because its going to take years to build up big enough catalogues to judge. I mean just look at The Last Of Us coming out now, right at the "end" of the PS3 life-time. That game will probably end up being a lot of people's favorite games from the generation. Also some of the games coming out soon (e.g. Titanfall) don't even look like a step up graphically from what we're getting now. Neither console is going to reach its technological potential for a long time.
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Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 03:39:40 PM »

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The problem with a Steam-like game sale system on XBL or PSN is a) they have not yet shown the same kinds of price slashing that Steam has
I'm probably going to get slammed for this, but the reason this isn't happening is because of used games.
Consoles are eventually going to go all digital (like steam), and when that happens, I'll bet my pet chicken that we're going to see cheaper pricing on games.
The thing is, we're not ready for that kind of transition yet. MS tried to push it out too early with some rather odd features on their XB1 and in turn got steamrolled by Sony.

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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2013, 03:54:52 PM »

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I can't for the life of me find the info about silver being able to use Netflix, fuck google no help me....
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2013, 03:56:44 PM »

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I can't for the life of me find the info about silver being able to use Netflix, fuck google no help me....

Haha I feel like I read so much stuff yesterday and now I can't find any of it.

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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2013, 04:49:30 PM »

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I've always thought Consoles was about selling games to make money. Like stores don't make any profit at all selling Consoles unless they add like a extra controller and a game or something.

The problem with the whole win the Sony win the battle versus Microsoft planning to win the war is pointless right now cause it will depend on basically what games will come out and if they become exclusive and so forth. And honestly if Microsoft was planning to win the whole Console war they are doing a really really reallyyyyy bad job at it.

I just find this entire thing funny as hell though. PC only for me (unless someone GIVES me a console for free WITH FREE games).


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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2013, 08:40:06 PM »

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So basically the defense of the XBOXOne is now based on how the PS4 may be sort of like it in those cases. The console marketing is stupid. We should just not buy them anymore.


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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2013, 09:32:47 PM »

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Craig, as long as I have known you (many years now), you have never been a console person, hell neither of us were in the USAF days, CnC Generals!!!

The console marketing, well in my eyes so far MS is straight forward and too blunt for people it seems and pushing their ideas on to the unwilling to change world, while Sony is saying all the right things, yet not being too clear on them either, well except for the trading/lending games to your friends part in their educational video (read:  kick to MS' groin area).

And I am still buying a XB1 and PS4 (eventually).
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2013, 10:22:02 PM »

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It looks like the real winner here is Reggie.
I DONT LIKE TO EAT POOP HE'S LYING

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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2013, 10:59:24 PM »

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The world would be so much better if Nintendo didn't have a console and just made their games for Xbox and Playstation. The Wii/Wii U is completely useless and the 3DS is basically just a handheld pokemon gaming device.

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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2013, 11:34:03 PM »

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The world would be so much better if Nintendo didn't have a console and just made their games for Xbox, Playstation, and PC.
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« Reply #21 on: June 11, 2013, 11:52:47 PM »

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Craig, as long as I have known you (many years now), you have never been a console person, hell neither of us were in the USAF days, CnC Generals!!!

The console marketing, well in my eyes so far MS is straight forward and too blunt for people it seems and pushing their ideas on to the unwilling to change world, while Sony is saying all the right things, yet not being too clear on them either, well except for the trading/lending games to your friends part in their educational video (read:  kick to MS' groin area).

And I am still buying a XB1 and PS4 (eventually).

That's true but I think the consoles are bad for gaming. They hold back gaming technology and are expensive for what they are.

The world would be so much better if Nintendo didn't have a console and just made their games for Xbox and Playstation. The Wii/Wii U is completely useless and the 3DS is basically just a handheld pokemon gaming device.
The 3DS is pretty good minus the 3D. I traded in my Vita and bought my kids their own. Personally though, I think Nintendo's best handheld was the Gameboy Advance.

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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2013, 05:51:43 AM »

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no one mentioned the kinect 2.0 and how microsoft has patents on it that may enable the kinect 2.0 to use visual DRM?

"oh im sorry, the movie you rented for 48 hours can only be viewed by 6 people maximum. Kinect has counted 7. please pay an additional fee to allow further viewers access to this movie."

im pissed that ps4 is now pay to play online. so much so that i wont buy it as quickly as i did with the ps3. i will wait for it to drop in price so i can play a few of its single player games. i guess im going to be solely an online computer player now, until steam charges us 5$ a month.

i played xbox 360 for 3 months with a gold membership. because i made 3 separate accounts and got a 1-month of gold for each account for free. seeing as how im super stingey when it comes for paying for online services, ps4 is basically dead to me, or atleast dying.

but like shitty said, i will buy both. ps4 then eventually xbox1, because why the fuck not

for now however. ps3+pc for me. get ur shit together nintendo so i have more games to look forward to other than the new super smash bros

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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2013, 06:43:19 AM »

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I just don't know what to think anymore about consoles and their gaming environment.  It just seems so mainstreamed and sold out. Its like Microsoft and Sony don't have a single gamer working for them. Steam is where its at and I'll just wait for them to blow these systems out of the water. Also, has there been less noise ever made for a new system than there has been for the WiiU? Flopcity. Also, my 3DS is more enjoyable than I think getting an XBox or PS4 would be.

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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2013, 07:35:30 AM »

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Also, based off an interview with Don Mattrick, if you don't have stable internet: "Stick with the 360."

That's the biggest issue is what happens if MS flubs the connection on their end? No single-player game access and what happens in 10 years when MS shuts down all the XB1 servers? Your games become unplayable and your console a door stopper. It seems worst-case scenario but it's a possibility. All that money you inevitably spend is just for renting a console and its games for a decade and then it's done and you're forced to buy a new console.

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2013, 07:42:28 AM »

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MIke I am sure if they shut down the servers, def wont be in 10 years, the 24 hr check is a software enabled function, they can patch it out if that ever came to be, but yeah def not in 10 years, more like 20-30 if not longer.  XB1 is going the way of Steam, just like the PC did MS knows the future is in digital downloads.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2013, 08:24:55 AM »

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MIke I am sure if they shut down the servers, def wont be in 10 years, the 24 hr check is a software enabled function, they can patch it out if that ever came to be, but yeah def not in 10 years, more like 20-30 if not longer.  XB1 is going the way of Steam, just like the PC did MS knows the future is in digital downloads.

20-30 years? You honestly think MS will sustain servers, the online features, cloud storage, and Live accounts for that long? I admire your strong-willed belief that MS still has their customers at the forefront of their minds, but I don't think it's that way. How will they patch out the 24 hr. check and still sustain their used games policy? Since the check-in validates every game found in the cloud, the moment they patch the check-in is the moment they lose control of the used games market. But who knows? It could be all digital by then but I feel as if it is still a legitimate fear.

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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2013, 09:13:56 AM »

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no one mentioned the kinect 2.0 and how microsoft has patents on it that may enable the kinect 2.0 to use visual DRM?

"oh im sorry, the movie you rented for 48 hours can only be viewed by 6 people maximum. Kinect has counted 7. please pay an additional fee to allow further viewers access to this movie."
We talked about that a bit in the other thread before E3 started. They have a couple of troublesome patents but as of now they're just patents, not plans. At least nothing confirmed.

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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2013, 09:55:34 PM »

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Here is some clarification on game lending for the XB1:




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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2013, 10:05:54 PM »

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If that's how it works then I think it's a gamechanger because you could easily buddy up with a few other people (like me + you guys) and take turns buying games then lending them out. So if we had 5 people we could access 5 times the number of games we each individually pay for if planned properly.

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2013, 10:21:56 PM »

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If that's how it works then I think it's a gamechanger because you could easily buddy up with a few other people (like me + you guys) and take turns buying games then lending them out. So if we had 5 people we could access 5 times the number of games we each individually pay for if planned properly.

Exactly.  Say you bought CoD Ghosts and I am on the fence because I dislike CoD games since the first MW.  You let me play it, even though you are in Canada, I like it and go buy it - hell I can go buy it used from Gamestop (yes you can buy used games for xbox one from participating retailers, which means gamestop), but I can try it/beat it/play it when you are not playing it because you are one of my "family" members I designated on xbox live.

Also you don't risk beating your friend up for scratching your disk when you lend them the physical disk (ps4 and prev gen consoles), they cant fuck up your digital version.

I rented one game for my ps3 and that fucker was scratched, countless times from gamefly/blockbuster/movie gallery the 360/ps2/psone disc I rented was scratched and not playable for the most part, never renting a game again.
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2013, 10:33:00 PM »

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I definitely volunteer to be family with you guys then. Although I probably won't get an XBone for a while.

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« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2013, 09:41:53 AM »

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I know it's not a big deal to a lot of people but apparently the PS4 controller has a headphone jack in the bottom so if you can use that for sound instead of the TV it makes it easier to play games at night when roommates/other people are sleeping.

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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2013, 01:35:55 PM »

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I know it's not a big deal to a lot of people but apparently the PS4 controller has a headphone jack in the bottom so if you can use that for sound instead of the TV it makes it easier to play games at night when roommates/other people are sleeping.
The Panasonic 3DO had something similar with their controller back in the 90's:

It's quite neat.

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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2013, 02:06:59 PM »

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If that's how it works then I think it's a gamechanger because you could easily buddy up with a few other people (like me + you guys) and take turns buying games then lending them out. So if we had 5 people we could access 5 times the number of games we each individually pay for if planned properly.

Exactly.  Say you bought CoD Ghosts and I am on the fence because I dislike CoD games since the first MW.  You let me play it, even though you are in Canada, I like it and go buy it - hell I can go buy it used from Gamestop (yes you can buy used games for xbox one from participating retailers, which means gamestop), but I can try it/beat it/play it when you are not playing it because you are one of my "family" members I designated on xbox live.

Also you don't risk beating your friend up for scratching your disk when you lend them the physical disk (ps4 and prev gen consoles), they cant fuck up your digital version.

I rented one game for my ps3 and that fucker was scratched, countless times from gamefly/blockbuster/movie gallery the 360/ps2/psone disc I rented was scratched and not playable for the most part, never renting a game again.

Im just wondering how they plan not to fuck that up though? What if Thrax is playing said game, and one of his "10 Family Members" wants to play. Does it kick thrax out of his game? Or even if it had a system where it wouldn't kick the original buyer of the game, what about the other people who have the ability to "share" the game? Seems like some bs gong show to me.


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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2013, 03:26:49 PM »

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Knives, calm your little asian brain down.  You can kick them off your game, not vice versa.  I don't get your last statement, makes no sense.....  what I posted makes perfect sense, pretty cut and dry.
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« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2013, 04:54:58 PM »

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Knives, calm your little asian brain down.  You can kick them off your game, not vice versa.  I don't get your last statement, makes no sense.....  what I posted makes perfect sense, pretty cut and dry.

No bro, I mean like say Person A shares Game A with 5 people. So Person B plays Game A, but then Person C logs in and wants to play game A. What happens then?


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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2013, 04:56:54 PM »

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Oh and those who talk about the 24 hour check in, use your fucking cell phone:

(this was from an interview with Phil Spencer)
We received additional information about online check-ins, as Spencer shared that tethering a mobile device can handle a license refresh. "It's kilobytes, not megabytes," he confirmed. "You can also set your console to always have the latest bits in a standby state."
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« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2013, 04:59:02 PM »

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Knives, calm your little asian brain down.  You can kick them off your game, not vice versa.  I don't get your last statement, makes no sense.....  what I posted makes perfect sense, pretty cut and dry.

No bro, I mean like say Person A shares Game A with 5 people. So Person B plays Game A, but then Person C logs in and wants to play game A. What happens then?

Only one person can play a game at a time (it may be 2 I am not sure on that but we will stick to 1 as it is the lowest common denominator) so only the owner can boot some one off a game.  If 2 of my friends want to play the same game I own and I am not on it, the first one to play it has the rights - this is all assumptions and common sense, but pretty sure this is how it will work, I jsut know that the owner has supreme playing rights over his/her own titles.
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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2013, 05:00:01 PM »

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Knives, calm your little asian brain down.  You can kick them off your game, not vice versa.  I don't get your last statement, makes no sense.....  what I posted makes perfect sense, pretty cut and dry.

No bro, I mean like say Person A shares Game A with 5 people. So Person B plays Game A, but then Person C logs in and wants to play game A. What happens then?

Only one person can play a game at a time (it may be 2 I am not sure on that but we will stick to 1 as it is the lowest common denominator) so only the owner can boot some one off a game.  If 2 of my friends want to play the same game I own and I am not on it, the first one to play it has the rights - this is all assumptions and common sense, but pretty sure this is how it will work, I jsut know that the owner has supreme playing rights over his/her own titles.

Cool stuff just wondering.

BTW http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ rofl.


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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2013, 05:15:27 PM »

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yeah - no, not really.  Actually E3 confirmed my purchase of the XB1, MS said exactly what they mean while PS4 is saying one thing at the press conference but saying something else in interviews - aka DRM, 1st party will have no gating issues (he did not say 1st party only in their whoopty doo press conference on Monday on stage) BUT they are leaving it up to the publisher of 3rd party games to decide the DRM akA Fees/online requirement/etc on the used games.  At least MS said flat out what they are doing.
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2013, 05:42:16 PM »

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Oh and those who talk about the 24 hour check in, use your fucking cell phone:

(this was from an interview with Phil Spencer)
We received additional information about online check-ins, as Spencer shared that tethering a mobile device can handle a license refresh. "It's kilobytes, not megabytes," he confirmed. "You can also set your console to always have the latest bits in a standby state."
With the exception of those of us who gain root to their devices in some form must pay $30/month for tethering. Regardless, it isn't about the bandwidth, its the principle. Just like paying XBL isn't a big deal but what are you paying for? Like tethering at a carrier, you are paying for features that the payee doesn't even maintain. I believe the publishers are even responsible for their game's master server, so what does XBL Gold paying MS to do? Just allow you to do things? Some patch servers on a CDN? XBL Gold is just a profit machine at the expense of the consumer.

Of course if XBL1 XBL Silver allows you to do things like watch Netflix and such, that's probably what should happen though it is still unclear what you are paying MS for with XBL Gold. Is it a wrong practice? No but that doesn't mean that the consumer unfriendly practice should be supported either.

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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2013, 06:05:18 PM »

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I tether for free using android, its an app pdanet.

I can't see them not giving silver members netflix now, seems like it is almost certain now.  Also, Phil Spencer mentioned in an interview they may bring XBL gold down to a more suitable consumer price point, so that may work for the better as well.

As far as principal, fuck it and I am all for it, even though I am a pirate I am looking at this through the developers'/publishers' eyes, usually when I like something I download I go out and buy it to support them just like the most respected and best software pirates tell you to do "If you love the product go buy it and support the developer".

Same for Gamestop, fucking hate them with a passion as far as used game sales go.
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« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2013, 06:10:03 PM »

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With the exception of those of us who gain root to their devices in some form must pay $30/month for tethering.
You have to pay for tethering?
You poor soul.

Sent from my HTC One X

But seriously, it would be pretty awesome if MS came out and said "LOL, I can't believe you guys fell for it! There will be no more XBL subscription fees or online checks! Checkmate, Sony!"
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Same for Gamestop, fucking hate them with a passion as far as used game sales go.
GS takes all the profits from used games. Publishers get pennies...
I can see why MS would want to do away with that.
As I said before, no more used games = cheaper games.

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« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2013, 06:22:22 PM »

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BING FUCKING O Sushi!!!  Except the publishers dont even get pennies, they don't get shit.
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« Reply #45 on: June 13, 2013, 08:16:11 PM »

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I tether for free using android, its an app pdanet.

I can't see them not giving silver members netflix now, seems like it is almost certain now.  Also, Phil Spencer mentioned in an interview they may bring XBL gold down to a more suitable consumer price point, so that may work for the better as well.

As far as principal, fuck it and I am all for it, even though I am a pirate I am looking at this through the developers'/publishers' eyes, usually when I like something I download I go out and buy it to support them just like the most respected and best software pirates tell you to do "If you love the product go buy it and support the developer".

Same for Gamestop, fucking hate them with a passion as far as used game sales go.
For VZW, you can now tether if you are on a limited plan. Unlimited plans cannot. I'm not sure about the other carriers.

With the exception of those of us who gain root to their devices in some form must pay $30/month for tethering.
You have to pay for tethering?
You poor soul.

Sent from my HTC One X

But seriously, it would be pretty awesome if MS came out and said "LOL, I can't believe you guys fell for it! There will be no more XBL subscription fees or online checks! Checkmate, Sony!"
sigh

Same for Gamestop, fucking hate them with a passion as far as used game sales go.
GS takes all the profits from used games. Publishers get pennies...
I can see why MS would want to do away with that.
As I said before, no more used games = cheaper games.


I don't pay for tethering. I have root on my phone. I have zero carrier software, except for the radio firmware, which is really Qualcomm anyway.

If used games were the problem for prices, then why are PC game prices still high on release? Publishers may not make a whole lot on used game sales from a retailer but they do on actual new game sales. No publishers are really going broke. It is the developers that actually barely get anything for their troubles. Most dev houses struggle to stay open while Ubisoft and EA while "suffering" with less profit still make enough money.

EA made almost a BILLION in profit last year. A BILLION.

Ubisoft made a little over 100 million in operating cash last year.

Yes used games sales are really hurting them. Their profit rate increase year after year isn't super steep, its just pretty steep.

Less prices. Yeah right. People said the same thing about Digital sales for the PC. Call of Duty Black Ops II is still $60.00 for the PC.

I can't believe anyone still has trust for publishers since they keep kicking their own consumers over and over again when they know they can still make a little more money off of them.

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« Reply #46 on: June 13, 2013, 08:26:53 PM »

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I am unlimited and tether for free, but not through VZW but through the app I posted pda net.

I have faith in MS, not EA and the like, but if used game sales this gen had some kind of kick back you can bet your ass companies like THQ would still be in business at least and not gone and forgotten. 
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« Reply #47 on: June 13, 2013, 08:59:39 PM »

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I am unlimited and tether for free, but not through VZW but through the app I posted pda net.

I have faith in MS, not EA and the like, but if used game sales this gen had some kind of kick back you can bet your ass companies like THQ would still be in business at least and not gone and forgotten. 
Yeah I know about PDANet. On VZW, you would get a paywall unless you tethered using USB, since with USB they couldn't tell that you were tethering. I read AT&T was also like that.

THQ? Are you serious? THQ released garbage in 2012 and then they messed up wiuth the uDraw, Homefront and of course the non-existant Warhammer 40K MMO that was going to be a single player game. THQ messed up big time. It had nothing to do with the used games market.

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« Reply #48 on: June 13, 2013, 09:09:26 PM »

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I think we're getting off topic.

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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2013, 09:13:37 PM »

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Craig, when I tether it is via USB cable lol.  I have a hot spot my work pays for otherwise, and yes we are.  Craig is like that, that smart SOB will get you talking about other shit and you don't even realize it...... 

but yeah, back on topic.
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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2013, 10:00:10 PM »

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Craig, when I tether it is via USB cable lol.  I have a hot spot my work pays for otherwise, and yes we are.  Craig is like that, that smart SOB will get you talking about other shit and you don't even realize it...... 

but yeah, back on topic.
Hey man, all I'm saying is that this is capitalism. We're supposed to vote with our dollars as consumers. I can't support something that I feel is doing things fundamentally wrong, even if I can play cool games on it.

Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2013, 10:02:39 PM »

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go to 0:24 for a real zinger


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« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2013, 10:06:07 PM »

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go to 0:24 for a real zinger

Yeah he's bad. Just like the whole "You're holding it wrong!" debacle for a poor design.

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« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2013, 10:17:31 PM »

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It's not the best way to say it but should the company really bend backward just to accomodate a tiny chunk of people? Nobody criticizes Lexus for not making a car that normal people can afford, why are we acting like EVERYONE is entitled to have an XBone that works perfectly for their specific needs?

They're choosing to alienate a specific market and I honestly don't think it's going to hurt them too much. How many people have 0 access to internet but really want an XBone? How will they even know all about it without having internet? I doubt there's a gamer-centric tv channel in Democratic Republic of the Congo.

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« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2013, 10:40:21 PM »

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and a company shouldnt bend backwards to accommodate a tiny chunk of people, but you consider offline users a tiny chunk? i usually agree with a lot of the things u say thrax, but i cant disagree more. this guy basically says, if u dont got internet connection go fuck yourself and use the same console youve had since 2006

and its not about the bells and whistles the Xbox1 will come with like tv streaming and shit. if u want to play halo 5 and dont have internet you are fucked.

oh and comparing the car industry and the game console industry is lunacy

there are hundreds if not thousands of different cars makes and models, and only a handfull of modern gaming consoles. chances are if u cant afford a lexus, you have a multitude of other options. oh and a lexus doesnt have exclusive features and  like consoles do game. so yeah, if their were only 4 car companies, and lexus decided to go upperclass and scorn all of its fans and followers, and had unique exclusive features that no other car had like airconditioning and seat belts, they would be criticized to death
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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2013, 10:47:52 PM »

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I'm not saying I agree with what I said but I think it's worth discussing. I genuinely would like to know how many people with no internet access bought and used Xbox 360s of the ~77 million units sold globally so far.

Looking at their main market areas (north america, europe, japan) I would say most people there have internet access, at least good enough for the once-daily checkup, and it's only getting more prevalent.

Edit: just did some googling and according to the US Census in 2001, 71.7% of Americans accessed the internet from their house in that year.

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« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2013, 11:18:33 PM »

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i saw this on reddit earlier today, not sure how reliable it is, but still

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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2013, 05:39:17 PM »

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It's not the best way to say it but should the company really bend backward just to accomodate a tiny chunk of people? Nobody criticizes Lexus for not making a car that normal people can afford, why are we acting like EVERYONE is entitled to have an XBone that works perfectly for their specific needs?

They're choosing to alienate a specific market and I honestly don't think it's going to hurt them too much. How many people have 0 access to internet but really want an XBone? How will they even know all about it without having internet? I doubt there's a gamer-centric tv channel in Democratic Republic of the Congo.
It isn't that MS should bend backwards to satisfy a small chunk of people, it is that there is a large chunk that are a bunch of sheep. Basically, the practices are acceptable if the gaming library is acceptable, even if that means the consequences are bad (holding back gaming technology, possible privacy issues, possible used game market issue, possible price gouging, etc.). We as consumers should demand better products that we pay a lot of money for. Instead, we as consumers in the console gaming market are OK with ridiculous things being shoved down our throats. MS hasn't really answered a whole lot because they know regardless their XBox One is going to sell well anyway.

Here, really the consumer is the problem.

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It's not the best way to say it but should the company really bend backward just to accomodate a tiny chunk of people? Nobody criticizes Lexus for not making a car that normal people can afford, why are we acting like EVERYONE is entitled to have an XBone that works perfectly for their specific needs?

They're choosing to alienate a specific market and I honestly don't think it's going to hurt them too much. How many people have 0 access to internet but really want an XBone? How will they even know all about it without having internet? I doubt there's a gamer-centric tv channel in Democratic Republic of the Congo.
It isn't that MS should bend backwards to satisfy a small chunk of people, it is that there is a large chunk that are a bunch of sheep. Basically, the practices are acceptable if the gaming library is acceptable, even if that means the consequences are bad (holding back gaming technology, possible privacy issues, possible used game market issue, possible price gouging, etc.). We as consumers should demand better products that we pay a lot of money for. Instead, we as consumers in the console gaming market are OK with ridiculous things being shoved down our throats. MS hasn't really answered a whole lot because they know regardless their XBox One is going to sell well anyway.

Here, really the consumer is the problem.

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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2013, 05:54:22 PM »

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Reddit is such an anti-microsoft circlejerk right now its ridiculous.

Just because 30+ million people never connected to the internet doesn't mean they all don't have internet. Plus, more people have internet now than over the past 8 years, and more people have wireless internet.

If someone came into this fresh without seeing any of the PR and just saw the two consoles side-by-side with their features it would be a lot more even than it is now.

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« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2013, 06:35:43 PM »

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Reddit is such an anti-microsoft circlejerk right now its ridiculous.

Just because 30+ million people never connected to the internet doesn't mean they all don't have internet. Plus, more people have internet now than over the past 8 years, and more people have wireless internet.

If someone came into this fresh without seeing any of the PR and just saw the two consoles side-by-side with their features it would be a lot more even than it is now.

no cus people saw 2 consoles side by side and their features, hence the PR.

yes i like ps3 over the xbox360 because ps3 had free online. other than that tho, xbox360 was just as good to me.

when it comes to this new generation of consoles, i look at the new xbox and i scratch my head. xbox is just making everything so confusing now with their restrictions and limitations its hard not to look at them and shake your head in disbelief
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« Reply #61 on: June 14, 2013, 08:31:32 PM »

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Reddit is such an anti-microsoft circlejerk right now its ridiculous.

Just because 30+ million people never connected to the internet doesn't mean they all don't have internet. Plus, more people have internet now than over the past 8 years, and more people have wireless internet.

If someone came into this fresh without seeing any of the PR and just saw the two consoles side-by-side with their features it would be a lot more even than it is now.
Why is this an argument about whether someone has access to the Internet or not anyway? Why isn't this an argument as to why should you have to connect to the Internet?

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« Reply #62 on: June 14, 2013, 08:46:39 PM »

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I don't know if I said this anywhere or just thought it, my brain is kinda scrambled right now, but I think it's important to distinguish between a practical issue and a moral one. Practically speaking it's rarely going to be a problem to most people who ever buy an Xbox One but morally speaking it is bothering a lot of people, hence the internet uproar. I'm not entirely sure why MS is doing it, and that's a running theme in their historically bad PR campaign with the console. This should be a case study at universities for how not to handle a product reveal.

The questionable kinect patents are what really bother me, even if those wouldn't end up affecting me IRL either. That's a much bigger slap in the face as far as I'm concerned.

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« Reply #64 on: June 14, 2013, 10:40:56 PM »

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I don't know if I said this anywhere or just thought it, my brain is kinda scrambled right now, but I think it's important to distinguish between a practical issue and a moral one. Practically speaking it's rarely going to be a problem to most people who ever buy an Xbox One but morally speaking it is bothering a lot of people, hence the internet uproar. I'm not entirely sure why MS is doing it, and that's a running theme in their historically bad PR campaign with the console. This should be a case study at universities for how not to handle a product reveal.

The questionable kinect patents are what really bother me, even if those wouldn't end up affecting me IRL either. That's a much bigger slap in the face as far as I'm concerned.
Morales aside, the holding gaming back by releasing an HTPC that also games though with average specs (now) and subpar at release is still unacceptable in my opinion. We're going to get more scaled down games on PC's in a few years because of it I'm sure. Again.

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« Reply #65 on: June 14, 2013, 11:39:57 PM »

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The problem with a Steam-like game sale system on XBL or PSN is a) they have not yet shown the same kinds of price slashing that Steam has
I'm probably going to get slammed for this, but the reason this isn't happening is because of used games.
Consoles are eventually going to go all digital (like steam), and when that happens, I'll bet my pet chicken that we're going to see cheaper pricing on games.
The thing is, we're not ready for that kind of transition yet. MS tried to push it out too early with some rather odd features on their XB1 and in turn got steamrolled by Sony.
http://n4g.com/news/1282654/microsoft-to-sell-next-gen-games-for-60-price-of-gaming-may-not-rise

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The problem with a Steam-like game sale system on XBL or PSN is a) they have not yet shown the same kinds of price slashing that Steam has
I'm probably going to get slammed for this, but the reason this isn't happening is because of used games.
Consoles are eventually going to go all digital (like steam), and when that happens, I'll bet my pet chicken that we're going to see cheaper pricing on games.
The thing is, we're not ready for that kind of transition yet. MS tried to push it out too early with some rather odd features on their XB1 and in turn got steamrolled by Sony.
http://n4g.com/news/1282654/microsoft-to-sell-next-gen-games-for-60-price-of-gaming-may-not-rise

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Last time I checked, neither of the next-gen consoles (XB1 and PS4) were all digital and both still (technically) have the ability to sell used games. When I mean all digital, I mean something like the OUYA and the steam-box or piston or whatever that thing is.

And your link even implies that we're already paying less for games anyway (due to inflation):
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The takeaway for now: if they all stick to $60, then new games will never have been so cheap.


I'm talking about waaaaaay down the line of next-gen consoles like the PS6 or whatever consoles are coming out by then, not next gen consoles.

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Interesting policy here:


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« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2013, 08:56:37 AM »

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The problem with a Steam-like game sale system on XBL or PSN is a) they have not yet shown the same kinds of price slashing that Steam has
I'm probably going to get slammed for this, but the reason this isn't happening is because of used games.
Consoles are eventually going to go all digital (like steam), and when that happens, I'll bet my pet chicken that we're going to see cheaper pricing on games.
The thing is, we're not ready for that kind of transition yet. MS tried to push it out too early with some rather odd features on their XB1 and in turn got steamrolled by Sony.
http://n4g.com/news/1282654/microsoft-to-sell-next-gen-games-for-60-price-of-gaming-may-not-rise

I prefer my chicken fried. Will I need to pay for shipping?
Last time I checked, neither of the next-gen consoles (XB1 and PS4) were all digital and both still (technically) have the ability to sell used games. When I mean all digital, I mean something like the OUYA and the steam-box or piston or whatever that thing is.

And your link even implies that we're already paying less for games anyway (due to inflation):
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The takeaway for now: if they all stick to $60, then new games will never have been so cheap.


I'm talking about waaaaaay down the line of next-gen consoles like the PS6 or whatever consoles are coming out by then, not next gen consoles.

The XBoxOne is supposed to be able to have all digital content with the option of physical media. And yeah I saw the two statements. The inflation comment would make sense, except the $60 standard is relatively new with the current generation of consoles really setting it.

And the comment that we will be paying less for new games is because what's-his-name said that because the games will probably have more polygons, bigger levels or whatever that by comparison we are getting a better game for $60 than compared to the other games. But that's really a marketing misnomer. Does a new model car typically cost much more money every year as they improve? Of course not. Thinking we need to pay more because a computer will render some graphics on hardware that has also improved and gotten cheaper and some Level designers that make $45,000 that will spend an extra two to four weeks making a game a bit bigger does not equate to costing more money to make.


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« Reply #69 on: June 15, 2013, 10:21:59 AM »

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Interesting policy here:



It was updated and only applies to the 360, not XB1.

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Interesting policy here:



It was updated and only applies to the 360, not XB1.

Still, that's what EA did with Origin and they caught a shit ton of flack due to banning people for just talking out about it when BF3 came out.
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Interesting policy here:



It was updated and only applies to the 360, not XB1.

Still, that's what EA did with Origin and they caught a shit ton of flack due to banning people for just talking out about it when BF3 came out.
Oh man I remember that.

Post in EA forums that BF3 sucks!
Accounts gets banned, including every game in the library!
Less people post that BF3 sucks!
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« Reply #72 on: June 17, 2013, 10:33:35 PM »

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found this today, and it is an official word from xbox support on twitter:

https://twitter.com/crossed_sabres/status/346698182765473793

So, me and Thrax can play one of mine or his games together with the family share plan.
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« Reply #73 on: June 17, 2013, 10:39:17 PM »

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found this today, and it is an official word from xbox support on twitter:

https://twitter.com/crossed_sabres/status/346698182765473793

So, me and Thrax can play one of mine or his games together with the family share plan.

How would that work with RPG games or games where you have to unlock stuff? Does it create different profiles? Do you all unlock shit towards one profile? Curious to see how this goes.


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« Reply #74 on: June 17, 2013, 11:51:48 PM »

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I'm pretty sure it would just act as if you both had a full copy of the game.

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« Reply #75 on: June 18, 2013, 03:00:55 AM »

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I'm pretty sure it would just act as if you both had a full copy of the game.
That would be pretty awesome.

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« Reply #76 on: June 18, 2013, 09:28:08 AM »

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I don't think it's entirely clear yet, MS is doing a piss-poor job of publicizing it. The one big thing that differentiates them and they won't even highlight it.

For some reason I feel like I read somewhere that only one friend can play one of your games at the same time so you couldn't have 9 friends playing 9 different copies of your games simultaneously which makes sense but could be annoying if you do designate the maximum number of "family friends" and they are all active console players.

I guess we just have to wait and see until it's written out in stone.

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« Reply #77 on: June 19, 2013, 04:18:17 PM »

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well it is confirmed, XB1 does not require 24hr online checks and you can lend your disc based game to your friends like past times:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/update


Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.

For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.

Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.

You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.

So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:

An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.

In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console -- there will be no regional restrictions.

These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.

We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.

Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
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« Reply #78 on: June 19, 2013, 04:36:49 PM »

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So I'm guessing the family share feature is going to go away? That's unfortunate.

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« Reply #79 on: June 19, 2013, 04:38:13 PM »

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you are correct Thrax, which it is
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« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2013, 05:21:44 PM »

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Sony forced their hand what with the better console, larger presale figures, and overall consumer opinion. They would have crashed and burned at launch should this had continued.

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« Reply #81 on: June 19, 2013, 05:28:50 PM »

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I disagree, but I can't fault them for backing down.  MS never does that.....
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« Reply #82 on: June 19, 2013, 05:36:38 PM »

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I disagree, but I can't fault them for backing down.  MS never does that.....

If you say they did this because their conscience told them to or they felt bad about buttfucking their user base and had a change of heart, I swear I will...

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« Reply #83 on: June 19, 2013, 06:26:25 PM »

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lol, no they did not initially butt fuck their customers, they took a step forward and people were not ready yet in the console, which is why the PC gamer is a much more refined, sophisticated person - the conslers can't handle what we were dealt so many years ago.
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Re: Xbox One/PS4 discussion
« Reply #84 on: June 19, 2013, 09:03:11 PM »

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Honestly I think people cannot accept this because
1) If they wanted a Media center they would use a Computer, since it pretty much can do everything they said Xbox One could do but better.
2) People have attached a certain perspective to Consoles, and what a Console should be like.


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« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2013, 11:45:06 AM »

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So apparently the PS4 ships with a headset bundled and the XBone doesn't.

Also there's this.

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« Reply #86 on: June 27, 2013, 08:16:29 PM »

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« Reply #87 on: June 27, 2013, 08:27:27 PM »

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I don't care personally but they would really benefit if you can use 360 headsets and not have to pay extra. It's already $100 more and if they expect you to pay for a new headset or an adapter its just another slap in the face.

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« Reply #88 on: June 28, 2013, 02:31:15 PM »

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new tech new headsets, its the way of the world and electronics.  I can't use my 3 1/2 or 5 1/4 floppies in my computer, don't see me getting all upset about it.  I have to spend around $50 for a disk drive if I wanted to.

And yes I still have floppy disks.
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« Reply #89 on: June 28, 2013, 03:48:21 PM »

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new tech new headsets, its the way of the world and electronics.  I can't use my 3 1/2 or 5 1/4 floppies in my computer, don't see me getting all upset about it.  I have to spend around $50 for a disk drive if I wanted to.

And yes I still have floppy disks.

But isn't that a silly comparison? Yes New Tech means new stuff. But my Headphones from fucking middle school still can plug into most any modern sound jack and still work (10 years). They suck balls, and I don't use them at all, but they still work.


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« Reply #90 on: June 28, 2013, 04:01:34 PM »

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new tech new headsets, its the way of the world and electronics.  I can't use my 3 1/2 or 5 1/4 floppies in my computer, don't see me getting all upset about it.  I have to spend around $50 for a disk drive if I wanted to.

And yes I still have floppy disks.

But isn't that a silly comparison? Yes New Tech means new stuff. But my Headphones from fucking middle school still can plug into most any modern sound jack and still work (10 years). They suck balls, and I don't use them at all, but they still work.
He's got a point. What new benefit is there going to be? Is it like the iPhone 5's new proprietary plug that serves no purpose but to force people to buy new plugs and accessories? At least they provide an adapter though it is expensive.

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« Reply #91 on: June 28, 2013, 05:34:44 PM »

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new tech new headsets, its the way of the world and electronics.  I can't use my 3 1/2 or 5 1/4 floppies in my computer, don't see me getting all upset about it.  I have to spend around $50 for a disk drive if I wanted to.

And yes I still have floppy disks.

I feel as if you overlook all these missteps because you're loaded or something. Just a guess, but you seem to shrug off extra costs like it's nothing.

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« Reply #92 on: June 28, 2013, 05:42:53 PM »

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new tech new headsets, its the way of the world and electronics.  I can't use my 3 1/2 or 5 1/4 floppies in my computer, don't see me getting all upset about it.  I have to spend around $50 for a disk drive if I wanted to.

And yes I still have floppy disks.

I feel as if you overlook all these missteps because you're loaded or something. Just a guess, but you seem to shrug off extra costs like it's nothing.

Yea that's another point. Isn't one of the main reasons to get a Console is because its cheaper than buying a computer to play games?


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« Reply #93 on: June 28, 2013, 10:17:48 PM »

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No, I am not overlooking anything.  If anyone cares to read, there is a reason (google is so hard to use and damn hard to search for on the net, I know):

The Wireless Controller has been redesigned to allow for higher data transfer speed between the controller and the console. This also required creating a new expansion port design for headsets and future controller add-on devices which is different from a standard audio plug input.

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« Reply #94 on: June 28, 2013, 11:41:43 PM »

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No, I am not overlooking anything.  If anyone cares to read, there is a reason (google is so hard to use and damn hard to search for on the net, I know):

The Wireless Controller has been redesigned to allow for higher data transfer speed between the controller and the console. This also required creating a new expansion port design for headsets and future controller add-on devices which is different from a standard audio plug input.

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They just released that new statement explaining it a few hours ago douchebag ;) Still doesn't mean that you can't just allow use of the USB to 2.5 mm adapters though. Its retarded. As usual with MS' decisions regarding the XBoxOne. Face it, they designed this to squeeze more money out of the consumer. If they didn't then that just means their design team didn't know that high speed serial ports exist already.

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« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2013, 02:18:02 PM »

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I just pre-ordered the xbox one :(

I didn't want to do it, but i know my son's friends will go the xbox rout instead of the ps4 rout. 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/microsoft-xbox-one-day-one-edition/9008207.p?id=1219013502536&skuId=9008207